Boys as Girls :)

[cutepatti]

THX MaryBeth. I remember spending a LOT of time looking at the big catalogs that used to come from places like Sears & Montgomery Ward back in the 50s and 60s. The clothing sections were loaded with lots and lots of pics of girl clothes and girls wearing them. I didn't have sisters so I had to mostly just appreciate and get turned on by looking at catalogs and magazines and imagining what it would be like to wear that stuff. It sure did help to put my confused puberty into high gear at those times when I was alone with those images of young girls in cute dresses or even older girls wearing girdles & bras. Whew! tee hee. 

[Angela M...]

Oh wow Mary Beth, I thought I was the only one that did that, creating my own paper boy/girl dolls using catalog pictures and many of mom's magazines too. I am not too sure if it was the pretty girls clothes that started me dressing up or the fact that I felt like a girl from an early age or maybe it was both but I am 68 now and the feeling has never gone away. Sure I tried to hide from it and throw away my girls things several times from the shame I felt but the feeling never goes away. Perhaps this is truly how Bruce Jenner felt all his life also and at least he was able to do something about it finally but many of us don't have that option.

[Robyn Jodie]

Those catalog pictures reminded me of one author on the Experience Project web site.  Although he closed his account before the web site went defunct, he claimed that in the 1950s or 1960s (I'm not sure of the exact timing) a Catholic bishop in the US midwest proclaimed it was "it was sinful and offended Jesus" for little girls to serve as models, and apparently other clergy in the area followed suit.  As a result he, and a number of other boys, became "dual gender models," appearing both as boys and as girls in certain "major retail catalogs."
He had a number of interesting stories to tell before taking them all down, but I have since wondered whether it was true or fantasy.  Especially since he seemed to know several other people on the site whom he and they claimed had been dual gender models with him.
If any of you have seen any of the "gigglets" photoshops of boys dressed as girls with a funny comment, this is apparently the person who created them (apparently these, too, have become hard to find).

[Robyn Jodie]

Hmmm...even the "Gigglets" have become nearly impossible to find.  Googling the term turns up nothing but googlebane (false positives). For the record, here's one:

[Betty]

Isn't Giggelets part of Princess Production's pay magazine or subscription section these days, or some other pay per view or subscription based site? I don't believe all of Giggelets was ever free, just portions or some free samples of it. If you have to pay to see it, Google wouldn't find it.

Is Princess Production closing or was taken over? I notice it's no longer on it's old domain & servers.

It's now at,
http://www.princessproductions-new.com/

It's nowhere near as user friendly as it used to be. There used to be more free illustrated articles. You also used to browse whole pages of the front covers of their publications, so you knew what to expect before buying access to them.

Paid access was to easy to use or download web-based pages, where most of them now seem to be not so user friendly PDF downloads. Many links are broken send you to a server host or host gator page saying the page is down or don't exist.

I be afraid to pay for an online magazine or PDF not knowing if the page actually exists anymore until after I paid.

I see the pages haven't been updated since April, & the busiest main page only had 38,000 hits in a little over 3 months (about 400 hits a day?). That's dismal for any national or international sissy site. The worst of the sissy sites get that in just a couple weeks.

Are they going under or already have? Maybe if they made the sites more user friendly, more freebies, with better previews & navigation to them of what's for sale, they could do better.

If giggelets still exists there, the poor layout would make it almost impossible to find. It would be guesswork at best to buy the correct magazine with the desired material.

Does anybody know who or what page/site was the last to carry the Gigglets series? Maybe we can find an archive of them if they're no longer supported or served anywhere.

[Betty]

While I'm at it, does any site carry the complete (old & new) sissy art by Christeen anymore? I see some that carry a few new ones, some old ones, but nobody seems to have anywhere near all of them anymore.

It seems picture rip-off site, pinterest carries more of them than any particular site.

If that's the case, would anybody be interested in a site carrying almost all of them in one place, & who do I ask permissions to run them? Or... does anybody know if it's OK to archive & preserve them for all to see these days? Put on the right properly configured site, even webarchives/wayback will archive most of it for future sissies after we're gone.

Petticoatpunishmentart.com used to be the best source for most of it years ago, but she doesn't carry hardly anything there anymore.

Another one I'm seeing turning up on Pinterest more often than any particular website anymore is Sissy Prissy's art. Is there no longer any site for all of it, or is it a free-for-all?

I know our "fair use" rights to post bits of stuff from everywhere related to our topics, & hobbies, but to post almost all of someone's works requires permissions, if the producer still exists.

And don't tell me some site owner bought out or assumed their rights after they were gone, because anybody can play that game of "claiming" ownership after the original owner or creator has gone or retired. It's meaningless unless they have a paper signed by the creator or original owner stating so. Without that signed paper, they have as much right to it as anybody else.

Many people go or retire, so are happy someone is still carrying & displaying their work for them, but few creators would actually sign away their rights to it, unless a large sum of money was offered for it. Most would just give or sign permissions to use the material. A creator signing permissions for a site to use their material, does not give them exclusive rights to it. It just means the creator is allowing them to use the material.

[Robyn Jodie]

I don't know about Princess Productions -- haven't been there in ages, mostly for the reasons cited above.  I believe there was a collection of them at a Russian site (probably imgsrc.ru), and Experience Project had several from the aforementioned "dual gender model," but when he took down his posts, everything went with them.

[cutepatti]

OK daddy...I'm ready. Why do you like seeing me this way and why can't I tell mom? Oh...OK...I'll keep it a secret...just between me and you. Wow, you think I look pretty? Gosh thanks! I love this new pink dress you got me. It fits me so good and feels just so, mmm, so yummy.  And the silver sandals with the little heels make me feel sorta like a big girl. Wow daddy thank you so much.  Yeah daddy, I'll be your little girl any time you want me to.  I like making you happy!

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[cutepatti]

This photo looks legit. The little girls obviously are really boys and it looks like the ladies are probably their dads. If not, those are really ugly women!! haha  What do you think?