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Title: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Bertha on March 26, 2016, 06:43:14 PM

I have been very interested in the threads about crossdressing in films and on television. I am still amazed by the content of the kids on YCDTOTV and how it escaped the notice of the censors but Betty has explained the AB and cross dressing scenes were spread thinly across the entire series. It did however, get me thinking about adult baby scenarios in mainstream literature. I remember reading a novel by Tom Sharpe when I was in my mid teens and being gobsmacked to read a chapter where Sir Giles was tied to a bed dressed as a baby. Until then, I thought I was the only person on the planet to have such fantasies. I subsequently read all the Tom Sharpe novels and without wishing to malign the author in any way, I always thought there was a detectable fetishistic subtext in his writings, although I don't recall there being any further AB scenarios. Crossdressing is rampant in literature, Shakespeare herself was a generous contributor to the genre. But, apart from the my one example, I am struggling to recall any other examples of AB scenes in mainstream novels. Can anybody offer some examples?

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Weezy1234 on April 10, 2016, 05:06:36 PM

Stephen King has some references in the Dark Tower series. Specifically, in Wolves of the Cala. It's just the twins that get kidnapped by the Wolves that get returned as mentally disabled . Many require diapers when returned. Not exactly Adult Baby.

In The World According to Garp, Percy Bainbridge apparently wears diapers because she likes them.  Her sister tells Garp that "... it's not like she uses them."

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Bertha on April 15, 2016, 07:27:00 PM

Weezy

Thanks for replying. I have remembered a book by Ian McEwan called the Cement Garden that became a film of the same name. It has an older boy regressing to sleeping in a cot but it is generally a strange book/film. Also by Ian McEwan was a TV play from the mid seventies here in the UK called Jack Flea's Birthday Celebration, in which a man who lives with an older woman becomes her fantasy child. Another BBC play from the sixties was called Who's a Good Boy Then, the premise is that a childless couple take in a lodger, Billy Oates, played by the excellent Ronald Lacey. The last scene has a pyjama and dressing gown clad Billy grasping the barred window of his attic room, shouting out, "I am, I am a good boy", as a passing train below drowns out his cries. Sadly I don't think a recording exists. I have read novels that feature ab scenarios but annoyingly I did not catalogue them at the time, there must be more examples. Incidently, the TV version of Blott on The Landscape, does feature George Cole tied spreadlegged to a bed wearing a nappy and a bonnet whilst using a dummy, but it is more a comic moment than anything else.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 15, 2016, 09:11:04 PM

I remember Cement Garden. Disturbing movie, but it features one of the kids who liked to dress up as a girl with the help of his sister. I had the film before the fire. Since most of the DVDs did survive the heat & water, it might still be around somewhere. If it was on tape though it was lost.

If I still have it, it might be nice to feature it on our movie night. BTW, it's always night time somewhere in the world, & everybody has a different evening to kick back with a movie, so it's always movie night here for somebody.

I have to agree about, "Who's a Good Boy Then". Can't find a copy anywhere. Looking it up, shows it ran on BBC's "The Wednesday Play". Only a handful of episodes still exist from that series, thanks to a very few viewer's personal tapes of it. I suspect they were wiped out during BBC's mass erasure, deletion, & destruction of old video/film a few decades ago, like when they wiped out most of the old Dr. Who episodes.

They say they've found & restored all the old Dr. Who episodes. No they did not. They collected all the private VHS tapes of them in the best shape to make copies of the privately owned tapes. I remember watching Dr. Who & all their old re-runs as late as the mid-1970s from our local PBS station, & a Canadian station in crystal clear quality. The originals did not look like old worn VHS tape recorded on their slowest speed. Modern enhancements may have improved them a little, but they're still VHS sourced versions of the show. A few of the episodes were copied from Betamax or even rarer U-matic tapes of better quality, but most are just copies of poorly recorded VHS.

They say BBC's the mass deletions of old video & film was caused by not being able to afford to save & archive everything during budget cuts. BBC was the largest broadcasting company in the  world, & they couldn't afford so save & archive their stuff? BS! Somebody was lining their pockets rather than spend a minimal amount to save old stuff.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Angela M... on April 15, 2016, 09:20:46 PM

Hey Bertha, I remember the BBC series Blott on the Landscape and I loved it but I have yet to find a DVD copy anywhere. I have searched the Internet and asked most of the British shops in Ontario if they could find me a copy but no luck. I remember in the show George Cole liked to be tied to the bed in a nappy, bonnet and dummy and play Nanny Bot Bots with his mistress.  I do have a VHS tape called Personal Services with Julie Walters that features her business of catering to men's peculiar habits. It features men in skirts and lingerie and diapers and rubber and is based on the London madame Kristine Keehler I believe.  I just barely remember the film Cement Garden and think there are clips on youtube but I remember it as a young boy who wears a wig and girls clothes and pretends to be a girl. His older brother teases him but an older girl says perhaps he is jealous and wants to dress up too, putting a ribbon in his hair. 

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Angela M... on April 15, 2016, 09:28:46 PM

Hey Betty, that may be why I can't find Blott on the Landscape, the bungling BBC have ditched it. Back in the 70's my friend and I would watch it and also the Benny Hill series. He was German and said nobody did comedy like the British. We would also watch all the Carry On films we could find. He and I did a two week vacation in England in 1970 and had a blast.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 16, 2016, 03:18:34 AM

It's at Amazon for around $5-$24, but it's encoded to only play on region 2-4 players. That means it can't play on regular players, & DVD drives in the Canada & the USA, unless you're handy with cracking the player's, drive's, or DVD's coding (it's actually quite easy).

http://www.amazon.com/Blott-Landscape-Complete-Series-Regions/dp/B0007ZD6VS

Of course if the DVD exists, it's most likely it has been cracked & the cracked version is circulating around.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 16, 2016, 04:34:10 AM

Don't bother buying it from Amazon. I just found a better deal for the whole series from a private source. I'll send you & any of our regular members who want it, a link on our private messaging system here when it's ready for downloading.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 16, 2016, 05:02:09 AM

It appears there's only 6, 54 minute episodes of the series. Is that correct?

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Bertha on April 16, 2016, 09:35:06 AM

Yes, six episodes it was. Actually I'm surprised there were that many as it is not a long book, it must have been a faithful adaptation, I think I only watched the ab episode. The BBC wiped dozens of classic plays, sitcoms, etc during the sixties. They maintain it was due to the high cost of video tape in those days, it is probably true. The BBC has always been under pressure to control costs as it is funded by the UK taxpayer paying an annual licene fee. The Cement Garden is a quite disturbing book/ film but well worth a read and a watch for it's overall content.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Angela M... on April 16, 2016, 10:20:12 PM

Yes it was about six episodes and I may be able to get a friend to convert it for me. He did two DVD's for me a few years ago that I got from Britain. One was Shirley Valentine and the other was a film my mother was in back in 1948. The newer one came out great and it was my mothers favourite but the older one with mom in it was not great to start with and was a cloudy copy.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 16, 2016, 11:05:47 PM

Got it. Processing them now. The first 3 episodes will be about only 230mb in size combined. That means even on a slow dialup all 3 can be downloaded in 80 minutes, or under a half hour per episode, or on some slow DSL or data connections under 2 minutes for 3 episodes. I'll put them in 2, 3 episode packs.

I'll private message the download link to anyone who wants them through our private messaging here.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 17, 2016, 01:08:28 AM

I sent you & Bertha a private message about a link to the series. Let me know if you got it, & the link works. I'm working on a link to the last half of the series too. It should be ready by this morning.

It turns out the Amazon DVD of it is only VCD quality, or only a little better than old VHS quality.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 17, 2016, 11:21:15 AM

I just sent both of another message & link for episodes 4-6 through the board's messaging system. Let me know if the links do or don't work. The first minute or so of the video looks a bit rough until the browser or player's cache & buffer catch up, but it gets much better after that.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Angela M... on April 17, 2016, 09:39:24 PM

Got it today and just watched episode four, the one with the adult baby scene in it. It is pretty clear but at this point I did not think I would ever see it again. Thanks so much for all the work you did to bring it to us.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 17, 2016, 11:56:06 PM

I guess right clicking to save/download the video doesn't work with some browsers or settings. When you click the link to view/watch it, if you place your mouse cursor near the top of the page, you'll see an arrow pointing downward. Click on that arrow to download & save the videos. It will say it 's too large to scan for viruses. Click download anyway. If it had a virus, I would know about it. It was processed & compressed in my house.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Weezy1234 on April 19, 2016, 08:33:43 PM

Wow! This topic took off. I loved the Cement Garden. I watched the movie then read the book. I will have to look at some of the other books mentioned. 

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 22, 2016, 03:54:42 PM

I have to admit, finding a copy of Blott on the Landscape was for personal reasons too rather than just for our users. When 2 regular members say they enjoyed it, & there was a kinky episode as well, it sparked my interest because I never heard of it before. Once I got a copy of it, I just briefly scanned through them to get an idea of what would be the best method to process & compress them, as they all seemed about VHS or VCD quality.

I finally watched the whole first episode through & enjoyed it. It is very old British humor, so not for everybody. Our local PBS station, & nearby Canadian stations carried a lot of BBC & other UK programming so I'm quite used to it.

I get a laugh out of when the newer Dr. Who series runs in the USA, they usually remind people about the caption feature for those Americans who can't understand the accent & language. Golly, your English has to be pretty bad if you can't understand ordinary, typical British English. You have to have lived a very sheltered life or been living under a rock to not understand the British. After all, British English is the the original official English, where we in America are actually speaking a slang of it.

Anyway, those interested in seeing the old Blott on the Landscape series let me know & I'll send you a link to download it. But hurry, because it will be deleted soon. It's 6 episodes at almost an hour long per episode. It's in 2 packets of 3 episodes each at about 230mb per packet. Expect about VHS quality. Watchable if you sit back a couple meters (yards) from a big TV, or fine on any small screen & portable.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Angela M... on April 22, 2016, 10:09:14 PM

Thank you Betty for getting this for us. I finally watched all six episodes and it is just as good as I remember it.  I have not downloaded it yet as I have come down with something that has sidelined me big time. I have a nasty case of Shingles all over my chest and back and it hurts like hell. Only things I can do is bed rest and take all the meds and bathe the rash with alcohol. Can't take too many pain meds as they bother my stomach. Doc told me it will last about three or four weeks but I will go mad by then. Take care and hopefully I will check in soon.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 23, 2016, 12:26:26 AM

Another reason to legalize pot. It relieves pain, nausea, & stomach problems. With my COPD, I could never smoke anything though. In NY state the legal medical version will be in pill or liquid extract form, made by the pharmaceutical companies. That way the wealthy health care companies can charge us $10-$20 per pill, & $5 per drop, while the plant only costs pennies per pound to grow. By putting the pharmaceutical companies in charge of it, puts it's price out of reach of most people unless they buy it illegally on the street from criminals.

Ouch! Those damn shingles again? Who would have thought a childhood case of chicken pox would come back decades later to haunt people in the form of shingles? My sister just 3 years younger than me is pretty lucky. She had chicken pox as a kid, but she's never had it come back as shingles yet. Both my Mom & Dad had chicken pox as kids, but never got shingles. So maybe there's some hereditary resistance to it there. That's why it was all new news to me that chicken pox causes shingles.

But I didn't know a modern day flu can kill you either, & cause permanent scar tissue on your lungs until it killed me for a minute (I was dead twice for almost a minute in the hospital) & ruined my lungs for life. Of course breathing fumes, dirty & polluted air at my next job made it much worse, but the flu initially gave me COPD first.

Get well soon!

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: andyg0404 on April 23, 2016, 06:59:10 AM

Hi Angela,

Very sorry to hear about your bout with the shingles. They offer a shingles vaccine here in the states and it's recommended for older people. It's a one time shot but it's far more expensive than the flu and pneumonia shots they offer and the procedure is different. It's kept frozen and when you come in for the injection they have to let it thaw before use. I took one a few years ago and hope it keeps me safe.

Feel better and I hope it passes soon.

Andy G.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: BillieJo on April 23, 2016, 11:15:01 AM

I got a shingles shot last year but unknown to me at the time was that it only reduced my chances of ever getting shingles and that if I was to get them the severity of the shingles would be reduced. The cost of the shot was in excess of four hundred dollars. Heck,  with that cost you would think it would prevent shingles 100%.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 23, 2016, 12:58:56 PM

You got robbed. I read the price is around $190. In the USA the heath insurance plans used the most by people over 50, will cover a cheap flu shot, but not the expensive shingles vaccine. I've read that even though the shingles shot may not prevent shingles flare ups in about half the cases, it will reduce the severity of them if they do flare up. Now they say you may need a booster shot every 5-10 years too!

http://www.consumerreports.org/health/why-the-shingles-vaccine-cost-so-much/

They say everyone over 60 should get the shingles vaccine. I never had chicken pox that cause shingles later in life. Am I still at risk somehow? I wasn't aware that shingles was contagious, just the chicken pox. I would think if one never had the chicken pox one should get the pox shot, not the shingles shot. I think doctors just assume almost everybody had the chicken pox so needs a shingles shot. Not so. Out of the 6 kids in our family, only my sister got the pox. Hardly anybody I knew got it either. I guess it was just rarer in our area.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Robyn Jodie on April 23, 2016, 01:47:13 PM

I am not a doctor, nurse, or physician's assistant, but as far as I know, chicken pox is a prerequisite for getting shingles, so if you never had it, you should be safe from shingles.  Unfortunately, the medical sites I have looked at say that a person who has never had (nor, apparently, been vaccinated for) chicken pox CAN catch the virus that causes shingles / chicken pox.  According to one site, "Shingles is less contagious than chickenpox and the risk of a person with shingles spreading the virus is low if the rash is covered."

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Betty on April 23, 2016, 02:02:34 PM

Yeah. That's how I thought it was. I can catch the pox if in close contact with somebody with shingles, but I can't catch the shingles. I need a pox shot, not a shingles shot. I can't have a shingles flare up if I never had chicken pox.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: andyg0404 on April 23, 2016, 04:37:27 PM

I got the shingles shot as I had a mild case of chicken pox as a child. And I think it cost about $190 as Betty says. And if it reduces my chances of getting shingles I thought it worth it even if it wasn't a hundred percent. I never got a flu shot until I was in my late 50's and contracted the flu. It was the sickest I had ever been. Wound up staying home for a week and prior to that in nine years I had never missed a day due to illness. After that I decided to get the shot annually and when it was advised to get the pneumonia and shingles shots I decided to do those as well. Getting the flu really shook me up as to just how sick you can get.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Angela M... on April 24, 2016, 12:13:52 AM

Yes Andy & Betty, it cost's about $200 here in Ontario but I can't take it because it reacts with my Arthritis meds. I had a mild case four years ago and they ordered the shot for me at the end of the year but my Rheumatologist said not to take it. My family doc suggests I ask if I can hold off on the drugs for 6 months and then take the shot because he said with my low immune system I could get it again. Old age is not for sissies that's for sure. Like you Andy I never had a Flu shot until I hit 60 and got really sick with it also.

Title: Re: Adult Babies in mainstream literature
Post by: Bertha on April 25, 2016, 01:52:35 PM

Over 70's can receive the shingles vaccine here via the NHS, it is technically possible to catch shingles even if you have never had chiken pox, the fluid in the blisters contains the virus, so towels and bedsheets should not be shared. I had shingles when I was a teenager and I do remember how painful the area where the blisters were for many weeks afterwards.

Thanks again to Betty for making Blott accessible, I enjoyed watching it.
Julie Mckenzie, who portrays Nanny Whip later went on to play Miss Marple on TV
and Blott himself, David Suchet, became the definitive Hercule Poirot.