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[Robyn Jodie]

A while ago I saw a meme that said:

A guy wearing a dress is fine.
A guy wearing a dress as a joke is disrespectful to transgendered people (actually they used the hideous non-word "transmisogynistic").
A guy wearing makeup is fine.
A guy wearing makeup as a joke is disrespectful to transgendered people.
A guy acting feminine or a girl acting masculine is fine.
A guy acting feminine or a girl acting masculine as a joke is disrespectful to transgendered people.

I tend very much to agree.

[andyg0404]

Hi,

000 VTG B&W Photogaph 1950's Kids Playing Dress Up In Gown Up Clothes Boy Girl
https://tinyurl.com/y6gyvjog

Andy G.

[patricialacey]

A guy acting feminine or a girl acting masculine as a joke is disrespectful to transgendered people.

I see where you're coming from but I have to admit it doesn't upset me at all.
Miming to some pop song  doesn't impress me, I just find it boring and pointless.
However if the "artiste" is doing a standup routine and his/her material is OK then I might pay for a ticket.
My first exposure to crossdressing came at a pantomime as a 7yo (shortly after discovering my mother's underwear and nightdresses!
 If ever you are in the UK around christmas time I reccomend you check one out
(the show is supposed to be for familys so if you have no kids you might want to borrow a nephew or niece!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJwWUZLqIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuc4PCFXasE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuc4PCFXasE
actually I almost forgot there are a few adults only pantos that are incredibly pollitically incorrect(not for the easily offended!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imjm-fJDHOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC5RNg4OBuk&t=401s

[Angela M...]

Hey patricialacey, I remember my first Christmas panto also at aged 7 when mom took my sister and I to the theater she worked in. We were disappointed on coming to Canada, that there were no Christmas pantos in our town or anywhere near by. There are several now in Toronto and Cambridge every Christmas and for awhile it was a tradition for us. A gentleman named Ross Petty whom I met while volunteering at the National Ballet, always produces them and plays the female roles along with some of his friends and they are wonderful.

[Robyn Jodie]

Sorry if I offend anyone, but in my opinion drag queens, with their overdone makeup and overly sexy outfits, are caricatures of women -- the gender equivalent of white men in blackface.

[andyg0404]

Hi,

1890’s THREE YOUNG BOYS BROTHERS IN DRAG DRESS CABINET CARD PHOTO LGBT Interest
https://tinyurl.com/y3h3h2gn

Andy G.

[patricialacey]

Hey Robyn Jodie you have not offended me nor I would guess anyone one this site.
Everyone has their own sensibilities and should be respected as their own person.
The only people I have a problem with are those feminazis (and whatever the male equivalent is)
who scream that heterosexual trans people have no place in the lgbtq community.
If you dig deeper you can discover that many factions exist that all seem to have their own agendas.
 All this squabbling is damaging the lgbtq groups involved when we get enough crap from the self righteous so called "straight" community!

[Robyn Jodie]

I saw the "Three Young Brothers in Drag" photo and laughed: those boys weren't wearing "girl's clothes," the were wearing "baby clothes."  In the 1890s both boys and girls routinely wore dresses, at least till they were out of diapers, and often (especially in wealthier families) till they started school -- First Grade, no kindergartens back then.

It was only in the early 20th Century that people got the bee in their bonnet that feminine-looking clothes as a very young child might "damage a boy's psyche" and started dressing boys in pants from the get-go -- even with a snap crotch a pain when it comes to diaper changing.

Dresses for baby boys continued in some families at least till the 1940s. I'm not sure whether I still have it packed away somewhere or my ex kept it when we divorced, but my mother saved one of the baby dresses she made for me; it was pink ("blue for boys / pink for girls" didn't really get started till the 1950s although people today seem to think it is a law of nature), elaborately embroidered, and had scalloped short sleeves. 

[Angela M...]

Hi Robyn Jodie, I remember mom showing my sister and I the pink Christening dress and bonnet we both wore. She was giving it to her sister for their son to wear and told my aunt to pass it on as we were moving to Canada in the next year or two. I remember wishing we could keep it for our dolls as it was so pretty.

[Robyn Jodie]

Christening gowns are interesting.  Frequently they are very long.  I once heard that one reason for its excessive length was the result of high infant mortality: it expressed a sort of wish, or perhaps a prayer, that the child would grow tall enough to wear something as long as the gown.