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Re: In The News
« Reply #90 on: October 06, 2014, 06:07:13 AM »
Beware the Chasers: “Admirers” Who Harass Trans People
By Christin Milloy

There are people whose primary sexual attraction is to trans people. I've seen this described as "trans-oriented" or "trans-attracted," and many such people self-identify as trans "admirers." Unfortunately, a great many admirers demonstrate misogyny and transmisogyny. When these badly behaved admirers actively seek out trans partners and inflict their disrespectful nonsense on us, we call them "chasers."

What's it like to date a chaser? Once upon a time, when I was much earlier in my life as a woman and had more insecurity than wisdom, I briefly dated "Chad," a chaser. I've considered that experience carefully and consulted other trans people on their chaser experiences: There's a disturbing common narrative.

When a cis person is attracted to a trans person, that should never be viewed (in and of itself) as a fetish, because that would cast any relationships between trans and cis people as shameful—just as same-sex relationships were called sick and perverted in decades past. Author Janet Mock has explained this rather elegantly. But what about when cis people specifically seek out sex with trans bodies, in a way that serially objectifies us, and disrespectfully treats us as their kink?

Trans people are not fetish objects, but chasers’ behavior is highly fetishistic. And while their attraction for trans people mustn't be stigmatized, their bad behavior toward trans people absolutely should be: It's harmful, it's demeaning, and it needs to stop.

Who exactly am I calling out when I use the C-word? I don't mean cis people who are willing to date a trans person when they meet someone they like, and I don't mean all trans-attracted people. I'm referring to individuals whose primary motivator in dating is that they really, really, really want to "be with" a trans person, one with original anatomy intact ... to the extent that other interpersonal concerns are neglected and ignored. They don't care to know us very well; they just want to date us. Date us so hard.

While there’s no way to know for sure how many trans-attracted people exhibit chaser behavior, it feels like a lot to me: I’ve only ever met one or two nice ones, whereas the jerks seem to come at me by the dozens.

It's not unheard of for chasers to pursue trans men, but most of the attention on admirer websites and message boards seems to be directed at trans women. From what I can tell, there's little awareness of non-binary people at all. They often proposition me. (Overwhelmingly, they're men—I've only been contacted by women exhibiting chaser behavior a handful of times, and in each case they wanted me to join them with their boyfriend or husband.)

Here are some tips to recognize and deal with chasers, to help any trans person navigate safely through unplanned chaser encounters with dignity intact.

When they meet you, they won't notice or care that you're a skater, a writer, a gamer, or an avid reader. Whether you're into documentaries, romantic comedies or the latest horror film, you'll get to pick the flick. Shawarma, street meat, sushi, or steak? Eat anywhere you like, because it's all about you.

Are you insecure about your looks or about passing? He'll compliment, reassure, and hold you (he'll be very physically affectionate), and he'll say all the things you need right now. He wants to be your dreamboat, to let you know that he's extremely attracted to you. He'll say this, and you'll believe him, because he's telling the truth.

His physical attraction is real, but he doesn't notice details of your personality or ask much about your life experience, because those factors are secondary to his interest. The chaser is first and foremost hungry for your trans body. He'll humor your interests for a while, but before long the conversation will inevitably turn (and return, repeatedly) to your transness. You might, very early on, be asked some eyebrow-raising questions like, "How long have you been on hormones?" From chaser websites, he knows hormone therapy can give a "svelte shape and more-than-ample boobage," but also "often results in feminine mood swings."

You might also be unpleasantly surprised by some of his word choices. My friend Maya told me that a man who was hitting on her once tried to impress her by explaining how much he "really respects trannies."

Respectful terminology is a big problem for chasers, and there's a simple explanation: They come to much of their educational material in an audiovisual format. Men who know us primarily from porn will be much more likely to casually drop grotesquely inappropriate slurs and demeaning labels like "tranny," "T-girl/gurl," and "she-male," all of which are keywords in the exploitative trans porn industry ... for which the paying audience is—wait for it—admirers!

Chasers may confuse or misuse terms like "transvestite," "cross dresser," "hermaphrodite," "transgender," or "transsexual," and have a strange tendency (given their apparent trans enthusiasm) not to know much of anything about principles of gender identity, social justice, or basic Trans 101.

He may obsess over, even manipulate, your feminine expression. Chad used to praise me when I wore more makeup; he often described which of my clothing he preferred ("You should wear..."); and he continually pressured me to switch from flats to heels, even after I explained that I didn't want to. (I'm 5'11'', and I don't wish to appear taller or risk falling down stairs unless it's for a special occasion.)

Pay close attention for clues that may indicate previous trans partners, especially if he's a straight man with no real connection to the queer community and doesn't identify himself openly to you as trans-attracted. A string of trans exes is a strong indication that he's had multiple chances to fix his bad behavior and hasn't. Remember, every single one of those women broke up with him for a reason, and you don't just want to be the new replacement. Chad had a framed photo of his ex on display, a long-haired trans redhead (just like me, except older). I should have noticed the warning sign, but I was too naive and inexperienced.

The night I finally went to bed with him, it ended abruptly after he whispered, "You are the cutest boy I've ever met." Despite his intense attraction to me, that's how he saw me: as a boy who was girly and used female pronouns. He couldn't see past my penis to the young woman I was, because he was completely fixated on the idea of my penis and how I was different than other women.

Online chaser dialogue frames trans women as "a person with some combination of female and male aspect." No matter how much the chaser gushes over how beautiful a woman you are, that's not how he really thinks of you at all, judging by how they talk to us and how they talk about us on their websites and communities. Even if he doesn't secretly consider you a boy exactly, you'll never truly be a woman in his mind, either, because you've been exoticized as "the woman with something extra." Something else. Something other.

Mathematically speaking:
Woman = (You - x). Solve for x.

You will never be "equal" to woman unless the value of "x" is zero: unless the body parts mean nothing to him. But to the chaser, they mean everything. You are an object, appraised against "normal" women (who are also objects to him), and found to have greater value, rather than being considered a thinking, feeling human being. He focuses on how you're outside what is normal, without ever challenging that normativity in any way, and he seeks to possess you in the process. Chasers are entirely unhelpful—in fact, they're harmful—to our cause of working toward eliminating cis-sexism and cisnormativity from society.

If you catch a guy who acts this way, throw him back: Chasers think they do us honor by offering their "love," but they're really just cis men expressing entitlement to women's bodies ... "with something extra."


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Re: In The News
« Reply #91 on: October 06, 2014, 07:26:24 AM »
Although I can agree with the above article at some points for some people, it is also very wrong on many levels too.

First of all the term the transgender community has commonly used for any male attracted to crossdressers is not "chasers", the real term for about 60 years, is the very derogatory label, "panty chasers".

What happens is that many transgender M-F are more attracted to females. But because females are supposed to date males, they try to, but the ones really attracted to females don't want to sleep with a male. So they feel their male partner is being a real pain when he gets horny. The less the poor guy is getting anything, the more horny he gets, & the more of a pain he becomes.

And as far as males who are attracted to crossdressers & transgendered, who do trangendered & crossdressers think was going to be attracted to them? You are going to attract the people who like you for who you are more than people who don't like who you are. When someone goes to buy a red truck, he's not gonna leave with a blue station wagon instead, he's gonna get what he wants.

If you don't want men to think you're sexy & drool over you, don't dress, look, & act sexy. A red truck will only attract people who like red trucks. If you don't like people who like red trucks, don't sell red trucks.

But if he's gonna take you out for dinner, take you shopping & foot the bill, change your flat tire, pay your rent, or paint your garage, you have to put out or your boyfriend will become a frustrated pest. If you're not gonna sleep with your boyfriend, you should not have one.... ever. I don't mean once or twice a month or every other month. It should be at least twice a week. Once he's satisfied, then he can think of other things.

He'll care about what you think & do if you care about him. The number one thing at the top of almost every boyfriend's list, way above the others is sex. Just give him that, & get it out of the way so you can both concentrate on the other stuff.

Some crossdressers are transvestites. That means they get more sexually excited over what they're wearing & how they look than any boyfriend. Again, if you don't want to sexually please your boyfriend, or don't intend to try, you really shouldn't have a boyfriend. Save the poor guy a lot of frustration & don't date him.

Other M-F transgender naturally have very low testosterone levels so feel more like a girl... even before any hormone treatments. If also has the effect of them having no or a low sex-drive or being impotent. So because they don't want to have sex with anybody, a horny boyfriend may seem like a pain too. Again, if you can't satisfy a boyfriend, then don't have one.

He's a boyfriend for gods sake! That means he's gonna want sex. He's not treating you like an object, he's just trying to get something all boyfriends need & want badly. If you can't provide it, don't get a boyfriend.

Some transvestites are gay. But some only want to sleep with other TVs. If that's your tastes, don't date a guy you're not attracted to.

Most "chasers" are gay. So you shouldn't be surprised they want you with your male parts or call you a pretty boy. Some gay men are turned off by big, hairy, or muscular men. They prefer more delicate, feminine, or smoother men. Many even prefer them with something sexy or silky on. So don't be surprised if he wants you to leave you nylons on to bed or wear a sexy nightie either. A few "chasers" are mostly or almost straight but had a bad turn off with a women or a few of them, or something happened where they find themselves not minding going after a guy that looks like a woman, even if they do have a penis. Those are the ones that will cuddle, hug, & hump, but be afraid to touch your penis, or if they do, only awkwardly.

If you don't want to be treated like a sexual object or fetish, then don't get a boyfriend. If he's a healthy male, he'll have a hard time thinking of anything else until he's satisfied. After he's had what he's wanted, then he can think clearly about other stuff.


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Re: In The News
« Reply #92 on: October 06, 2014, 11:28:58 PM »
WOW Betty, you have been busy today. Thanks for all this info it made for some great reading and very informative. I do recall reading about the woman in Winnipeg and after the first or second confrontation I would have decked this bitch and let the police deal with it as nobody else seems to want to bother. I certainly would press charges for harassment if I were this family and even hate crime status.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #93 on: October 07, 2014, 05:10:34 PM »
I hadn't posted any news in a while, so I figured I'd sit down & read what's going on.

If the school, district, & authorities have already approved & set up for transgender kids, somebody elses parents have no business telling the kid where to go, or bother the kid.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #94 on: October 07, 2014, 07:18:04 PM »
Tama Toys, the makers of the “my first makeup set” for otokonoko, have been steadily expanding their lineup targeted at men who have a thing for dressing up as girls, and they just made a new breakthrough with their new latest product, sanitary panties for men. The product even comes packaged with a sanitary napkin enclosed.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #95 on: October 07, 2014, 07:19:29 PM »
Otokonoko (おとこの娘), written with a kanji character which means “daughter” or “young woman”, refers to men who look and dress like girls. Of course, these men could always purchase and wear actual women’s clothing, but that didn’t deter Tama Toys from expanding the line of products for the niche market of otokonoko, specifically those who have an interest in otaku culture.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #96 on: October 07, 2014, 07:23:00 PM »
Specially designed for otokonoko: lingerie sets, high school girl uniforms and more, they're packaged with illustrations of meek looking androgynous characters on the box, The newest addition to the product lineup are lacy sanitary panties in two color variations.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #97 on: October 07, 2014, 07:25:08 PM »
Sanitary panties are special underwear designed for the use with sanitary napkins during that time of the month. They usually come in a cutting that provides excellent coverage and fit to prevent leakage, and the crotch area is double-layered so that the wings of the sanitary pad can be tucked in between the fabric to help keep the pad in place even with vigorous movement.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #98 on: October 07, 2014, 07:27:59 PM »
Women use sanitary panties because they’re comfortable and easy to use with pads, and also simply because it sucks to get stains on the cute undies they’d want to use on most days of the month. Don't know why a guy would need them except to feel girly.

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Re: In The News
« Reply #99 on: October 07, 2014, 07:34:28 PM »
Perhaps the imaginative otokonoko would see the fun in using these sanitary goods, but as you would have expected, the non-otokonoko population is slightly baffled by the idea.

This appears to be a company who wishes to diversify, by pleasing some of us, but has only scratched the surface. Perhaps we can email them some suggestions.

 

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