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They are doing a revival of the Rosanne show on ABC.
When Roseanne returns to the air next year, there will be a new character bending gender norms. Showbiz411.com reports that the revival will include a ‘gender creative’ character.
A source told the outlet that the character will be Mark, the 9-year-old son of Darlene and David, played by Sara Gilbert and Johnny Galecki.
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Talk has been going on about this since spring. Only 8 episodes are scheduled to air sometime in 2018.
According to a casting notice put out by the producers, the show is looking to cast a character named Mark, who is the 9-year-old son of Darlene and David. Mark will be a "gender creative" character.
The casting notice describes the character as "sensitive" and "effeminate." Mark "displays qualities of both male and female young child traits."
As of Aug 1st, nobody has been signed on to play the role yet.
According to lgbtqnation.com Rosanne is a right-winger who voted for Trump. That's gonna be a thorn in the side among people who have alternate lifestyles or have friends who are. With a lesbian character, & an effeminate boy character, it probably won't be liked by the right-wing Trump supporters either.
Tweeted by Rosanna Bar:
— Roseanne Barr ("at" therealroseanne) March 20, 2017
“I like Trump because he financed his own [campaign],” Barr said. “That’s the only way he could’ve gotten that nomination. Because nobody wants a president who isn’t from Yale and Harvard and in the club. ‘Cause it’s all about distribution. When you’re in the club, you’ve got people that you sell to. That’s how money changes hands, that’s how business works. If you’ve got friends there, they scratch your back and blah, blah.”
So this rivial series already smells like a disaster. They'll have to be very creative & talented to make this work. The only talent I see is Johnny Galecki, John Goodman, & Sara Gilbert.
For a few years the original show themed on the lives of a White Trash family was popular. But the last few years it got quite borning. It was a sitcom, that stopped being funny. So it tried to get serious to get back ratings, & that also failed.
One of our local channels runs the original show daily (not on cable, low powered TV antenna channel). Except for the first couple years or the series, it was no big deal.
There's only so many white trash jokes you can throw out there, without it becoming stale & tired after a while.
I save a lot of old TV series. Rosanne was one I didn't. I liked it when it was new. But after a couple years, I rarely got around to tuning in anymore.
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I save a lot of old TV series. Rosanne was one I didn't. I liked it when it was new. But after a couple years, I rarely got around to tuning in anymore.
Hey Betty,
I'm the same, save quite a few sitcoms, serials etc. Most seem to go downhill after 2 or 3 seasons. I've taken to just saving the 1st and last episodes of the latter seasons of shows I don't particularly enjoy.
Mainly out of curiosity value to see the cast "growing up". Roseanne was one in that category. Usually try to get the Halloween episodes also as there inevitably are sissy dresses in them somewhere.
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Hi,
In the new Roseanne television series her grandson likes to wear dresses.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5243169/Roseanne-grandson-dresses-like-girl-not-transgender.html
Andy G.
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This will be an odd show. Rosanne herself is a strict conservative, devoted Trump fan, & the character she plays on the show is too.
I don't know whether to boycott it or watch it like a train wreck. So far this reads like it's going to be a disaster, but who knows? Maybe she has some good writers. ABC has only had a few successful sitcoms lately.
It's no big gamble for ABC anyway. Networks rarely commit to full season contracts for new shows anymore. Most networks won't even consider a half-season contract until after a few episodes have aired & did well in ratings. So I'm sure they can cancel after just a couple episodes if it doesn't work, or apply pressure to change it.
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Hi,
Here's a group picture of the Roseanne cast with the boy playing the grandson wearing the cute dress he was wearing in the earlier post on the show's revival.
Andy G.
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Hey thanks for that one Andy, I have not had a chance to see the new show yet. Did not know about the grandson either.
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It hasn't aired yet. They keep moving the airing date up later & later. Right now the first show of the revival is scheduled for March 27. Only 8 episodes are planned.
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I don't watch too much TV so I have not seen the schedule. The shows I do watch are the British Mysteries and comedy's when they are on or I will go to youtube videos of the shows. My cousin mentioned a new Brit Box he got for available British TV shows but I am not paying their rates for that. He has a whole lot more money than I and keeps his Yacht at the Toronto Yacht Club.
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I don't even get cable TV. But with my cheap indoor antenna, I get a little over 40 channels on a good day & over 30 channels on a bad day. On a good day I can even get channel 5 & 19 from Toronto & a couple French Canadian stations. Lots of commercial, infomercial, & church stations that I had to block, so only about 2/3 of the channels I get, I actually watch.
Back when I had cable or Directv & over 200 channels, there were only 18 I ever actually watched, & some of those were local, network, or Canadian channels that I get with the antenna anyway. So I'm getting more channels that I actually watch now, than I did with cable & satellite.
The only bad about no cable, is I have to know a show or film exists to want to watch it. I don't get to hear about whats on cable or stream services much. So unless someone mentions it, I won't know it exists.
99% of every movie, TV show or video ever made is available free somewhere anyway, if you're handy, tricky, & careful. But believe me, Facebook & twitter is more dangerous than most places you can watch or download video. Extra care should be taken if the source of the media is coming from eastern Europe, the middle east, or Asia. But I consider Facebook, twitter, social media apps, phone apps, & windows 10 apps more dangerous & risky than the rest of the internet & usenet combined.
Betty's actually got it's start on the Usenet in 1981. It started as just a small newsgroup on newsgroup servers in Buffalo, Toronto, Rochester, & NYC. The usenet is still a great source for free movies, TV, video, & music, but the procedure to get them, is a bit complicated.
Getting British programming & TV is incredibly easy though. They stream most of their stuff as well as broadcast it. So all you have to do is fool their servers into thinking you're in the UK. Easy peasy! I can make their servers think I'm the Queen of England if I wanted to.
I take requests. Is there any particular show or film you're looking for? I could probably find it unless it's very rare or out of print. And if I never heard of it or saw it before, I might want to watch it too.
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Hi Angela,
You must have missed my original post, here's a full photo of the grandson.
Andy G.
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Thanks for that one Andy I must have missed your previous post. He looks very comfortable in this pic, I will have to watch for it.
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After well over a year of hype & postponements, Roseanne is finally tonight. Unfortunately thanks to all that constant hype, even if it's good, most will be disappointed because they tuned in with high, & unrealistic expectations.
She's a devoted Trump supporter, who's character also plays one, so this will either be interesting or a total disaster. Lets not forget the original show got canceled because it got stupid. She was no longer a novelty, but a fool & nut case in desperate need of therapy.
Has anybody seen any of her recent work? Nobody will touch it.
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Ok I just finished watching Rosanne and the young boy who plays Mark is very talented. He delivers his lines like a natural and gets along well with Sara Gilbert (his mom). I can say I did get tired of the original show after awhile and I may only watch a few of the new ones but it seemed to be struggling. Time will tell if it will make it or not. I will Google to see who the young boy was and what other shows he was in but he did make the character believable. Thanks for the info Betty and Andy for the cute pic.
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I had to take a nap after dinner so missed it. I breathe better with my COPD at nights & overnight when pollution, ozone, & humidity is the lowest, & the air is cooler. Also indoor pollutants from the other tenants in the building from their cooking, cleaning, showers, & laundry is less at night. My DSL internet connection & our web servers are faster overnight too.
So I'm a night-owl. But the phone woke us up way too early this morning. The kitties & I couldn't fall back to sleep afterwards. Didn't recognize the number, so didn't answer. A quick lookup of the number later revealed it originated from India, with reports that they're fake callers claiming to be from Time/warner-spectrum offering a great "deal". I'm sure they would ask for your credit card number or personal info.
As a former dance & nightclub DJ/VJ, & band tech, I was used to being up some nights anyway. But even as a building engineer at my day job for 16 years, & a smaller place for 2 more years, I often had to be at work by 4-6am. So I would have to get up at 2-4am to get there on time. I was never one of those people to get up & rush out the door for work. I enjoyed some quiet or personal time & meditation before going to a job. With pets in the house, they enjoyed the time together before I'm gone 6-12 hours. So I actually loved getting up at least 2 hours before I had to be at work so I can have some pleasant quality time before a job. Starting work at 4am had advantages. If it was only an 8 hour day, I might be able to leave by noon! Even a 6am job could mean I might be done by 2pm. I may have even packed some snacks so I didn't have to take a lunch hour, or would rush to eat as soon as I was done for the day.
Anyway, I just downloaded the first 2 episodes of the TV show to watch later. I'll probably compress them to run in our private viewing section here for those who missed it.
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I just saw it this morning. Watching it with low expectations, it was OK, compared to most of the crap on TV these days. As expected, after being over-hyped for over a year, many were disappointed with it who tuned in with high expectations.
I'm reading quite a few who simply refused to watch it because Roseanne & the character she plays is pro-trump. That makes them as bad as many Trump supporters... always tuning in 1 news source, opinion, & tuning out anything from the other side of the fence or that they disagree with. You won't know the neighbor on one side is starving, while the neighbor on the other side is picking pockets if you refuse to look.
I always make a point to get my news & information from many sources so I can form my own opinion rather than have it manipulated by them. I prefer to think for myself rather than be told how & what to think.
The show, typical of many sitcoms got way overboard with the canned laughter button, blasting a laugh track over the speakers. These weren't just fake laugh tracks of a few chuckles either. It was hysterical, rolling in the aisles, loud laughter every few lines. There are a few shows that do this, that I just can't watch because the laugh track in so unbearably annoying, & blasting out after every damn line... not just after a funny joke.
This show would have been much more enjoyable with less or no laugh-tracks at all.
Most of Roseanne's performance a mix of bad & good acting. At some points it sounded like she was just reciting lines, other times she seemed to be say them as if she was doing a stand-up comedy show rather than acting. There were a few times she did actually do a good act though, so she does know how to, if she tries or is in the right mood. For all the time this show took, & all the postponements, I expected better from her.
Laurie Metcalf really over-acted & over emphasized her former character, Jackie. The character seemed way out of kilt, & made me uncomfortable with the new way she tried to portray her. Perhaps she got a bit carried away with it.
Most of the other actors did seem to do pretty well at their job, & were professional with their acting... Including the new kid, Ames McNamara who plays the crossdressing Mark. This comes as a surprise as he has almost no previous on-screen experience except for a brief part in an obscure cable TV show, At Home with Amy Sedaris back in November.
Today's reviews of the show just seem to praise that it got very high viewer market-share ratings rather than comment much about the content or quality. This thing was hyped to death for well over a year, & postponed numerous times. So it makes sense that a lot would tune in by the time it finally got around to airing. The show was good enough. Mostly it was lots of cans of worms & controversy than a true sitcom. Hopefully after some of the real reviews start pouring in the show will improve.
If I recall, The Gomer Pyle, Beverly Hillbillies, & Andy Griffith reunion shows had high market-share viewer ratings. But they didn't grow beyond those first reunion shows. So high "market" ratings are pointless for the premier of a reunion show, that was hyped a lot before it aired.
Also you won't be able to see this on ABC or CTV for free if you missed an episode. You have to pay a subscription service to see them if you missed the airing, or hope you remember to catch it on a day it reruns some summer. Many wanted to catch it, so they don't have to pay to subscribe to a service later to see it.
I will be running a low bandwith copy of it in our private viewing section soon, but if you want the sparkling super-HD version you will have to pay a service if you missed the airing.
Also coming up soon, are the past 2 episodes of Young Sheldon, & The Big Bang comedy series in our private viewing section if you missed them. They don't rerun in order in the summer, & in some countries or regions, the reruns in syndication on other channels don't run the recent past 2 years of episodes. They want you to get a subscription service to see them, if you missed them when they aired.
In the meantime, here's the only other on-screen performance of Ames McNamara, from "At Home with Amy Sedaris" back in November.
http://unclegadget.com/media/athome.mp4
Looking at the high TV market share rating of Roseanne last night, one has to remember there were no big high rated shows competing against it at that time slot. Here's the 8pm listings of yesterday out of the channels I get with my TV antenna (church, info, sports, & commercial channels blocked).
Yes, you can get a lot of channels with an ordinary cheap antenna without cable for free.
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Yes Betty, I will give it a chance but I was a bit underwhelmed by it. Laurie Metcalf always was an over the top actor and is the same in Young Sheldon and Big Bang but she is likable and the show deserves another look for sure. I spotted a commercial for Young Sheldon yesterday where he comes home from an Audition saying he got the lead part. When asked what play they were doing he said Annie so his character will be dressing as a girl also in future episodes. I don't watch TV often so I may not see this one. I too am a night owl and have been since high school when I always worked nights after school and summer jobs. When I started my working life in 69 it was late nights at the Royal York Hotel and also later at my more permanent job it was afternoons and late nights with lot's of overtime so I slept most days away. It took me awhile to change over after I got full time days but still lot's of overtime. When I look back I realize I spent a good portion of my life working and in some ways it contributed to my poor health now. Still that was the hand we were dealt and I was lucky to have a full time job for most of my life and a few sidelines as well. Many guys I went to school with have had a tough go of it most of their lives but some just expected to be handed a paycheck for very little in return. Well I got a little off topic here so I will end now.
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Hi,
Video interview with Ames McNamara, the boy on Roseanne. He's very articulate and natural, a normal little boy.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/roseanne-trump-week-2-review-140800790.html
Andy G.
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For those who missed the new Roseanne episodes, or can't get them, & don't want to schedule your time around when they re-run, I also posted the first 8 episodes of the series. I've combined the 19-21 minute episodes to make them into longer shows.
The crossdressing kid doesn't appear in episodes 3-5, so I've group those together into a single long episode. He returns in episode 6.
They're in our TV section of our private viewing area.
http://pearlcorona.org/betties/index.php?board=9.0
Viewable to Betty's Pub members only. Being a member of Stories does not automatically make you a member here. They're separate & independent sites.
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Well, that didn't last long. As I predicted last year, when the revival of the Roseanne TV was announced, it's been canceled. I praise ABC for doing a good job making sure the show didn't go too far & wasn't too bigoted. Unfortunately although they were able to control the show's content a bit, they had no control over the star's bigoted life... a devoted Trump supporter.
Roseanne in a tweet said former Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett looked like the Muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby.
Hours later, ABC canceled Ms. Barr’s show. The sudden cancellation of a hit show with some of the highest ratings for a new series in years stunned an industry.
According to two Disney insiders who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe company matters, there was more at stake than just a hit show. Disney has been widely praised in recent years as a leader in efforts to combat racial stereotypes through its movies and TV series.
Roseanne dismissed accusations that the comment was racist, defending it as just a joke. That's the problem with most racists. They don't even know they're racists. To even think up, & say a thing like that, thinking it was a funny joke makes them racist, but they don't know it. They say they were just "kidding around". To joke that a top adviser to Obama looks like they descended from a Muslim monkey, is extremely insulting & racist.
That's like Trump's "Locker Room" humor isn't really funny unless you're a filthy pig, but they don't know they're a pig.
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Well Betty, that totally shocked me as I thought Money ruled the TV/ Motion Picture Industry. As one of the highest rated shows recently I figured it was at least good for another season. I watched from the start and liked most of what I saw. Young Ames McNamara was certainly good at playing his role so it is a shame it was cut short. I have in the past thought Roseanne was a strange bird so it is no surprise she has done something like this.
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It was approved for another season about a month ago, before they cancelled it. I wonder if any contracts for the next season were signed yet.
I knew she'd find some way of screwing it up. If ABC was smart, they'd immediately start production of a spinoff of the series without Roseanne. Maybe calling it, The Conners or something.
There would be plenty of ways the writers can just write her out of the show. Maybe she had to move to a warmer or drier climate for health reasons, a divorce, inherited an old uncle's home far away etc. They even killed off Dan at the end of the original series.
Rosanne had less influence in the new series, than the old one. There are other great characters & actors that can evolve & carry the show. There may be some copyright or trademark obstacles to overcome, like Roseanne actually invented the character "Rosanne" for the show, so may claim rights to any reference to the character.
There are plenty of ways around that by simply referring to her in future episodes as the wife, mom, or sister, rather than use her name. Or ABC can buy out any rights to the character. However because Rosanne is a common name, I don't think holding rights to the character or it's name would hold much ground in court, or be worth much to buy out the rights to.
Then there's also "fair use" laws. As long as the show is no longer called Roseanne, she would have a hard time claiming trademark issues with the show just by referring to the name in the dialog & script.
Also there are 2 or 3 episodes left in this season. Were they already recorded & ready? Will they run them if they are?
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Wow. That was fast. I just noticed ABC purged any evidence that Roseanne ever existed from their websites. You can't even see or play the current episodes there anymore. I wanted to see if they would run at least 1 more episode, because it probably was already recorded. There's no links or reference to the show at all there anymore.
Dang, even Canadian TV & CTV cancelled their streaming service of the show.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/ctv-pulls-roseanne-from-its-television-and-streaming-platforms-1.3950555
I download a lot of my TV shows, British series, & movies from Canadian TV channel streams. You're not supposed to be able to download & save a stream, but there's always a way. I'll guess close to half of everything in our private viewing area originally came from Canadian TV channel streams.
I have episode 9. I guess that will be the last one. I'll post it in our private viewing area later.
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I guess they want to totally distance themselves from any memory of her after her Tweets. She totally screwed this up for a long time. She still had her caustic wit on the show but I felt she was trying real hard to get back in character and even Dan was pushing it. He even admitted on a talk show that he was drunk filming the first episode. Bringing it back as the Connors would be a good idea and due to her health problems on the show, killing her off would be easy. An overdose of her pain meds as that was one story line already, hoarding pills all over the house.
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Now that it's cancelled, it suddenly becomes a highly collectable TV series, & more valuable to collectors or archivers.
I guess I should try to get clearer versions. Usually for sitcoms & regular TV, high quality HD video isn't a priority for me. Smaller file sizes so I have space to save lots of it, & not take a million years for me to download or upload it is more important to me for stuff like that.
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ABC has started producing a series called, “The Conners,” a spinoff starring original cast members John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, Sara Gilbert, Lecy Goranson and Michael Fishman... without Roseanne. Barr will have no financial or creative involvement in the spinoff.
“The Conners” is slated to debut this fall and take over the 8 p.m. Tuesday time period that “Roseanne” had been slated to occupy until the show was abruptly canceled. Additional cast members and a premiere date will be announced at a later date.
“The Conners” has been given a 10-episode order. It is not known how Barr’s character will be written off the show.
ABC insisted that the comic receive no financial benefit from a spinoff. Because Barr was credited as creator of the Roseanne Conner character around whom the original series was built, she was believed to be entitled to a stake in any spinoff — even one in which that character was not involved. Sources tell Variety that Werner appealed to Barr to step away from the spinoff in support of the crew members who would be put out of work by the cancellation of “Roseanne.”
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With the exception of Barr, Goodman, who plays Dan Conner, will press on with the rest of the cast in the spinoff, The Conners (Tuesday, 8 EDT/PDT), which includes Sara Gilbert, Laurie Metcalf, Lecy Goranson and Michael Fishman.
The Conner family will adjust to the death, confirmed by Goodman in an interview in August, of Roseanne Conner, whose absence will be explained in Tuesday’s premiere.
Goodman says he was immediately on board when Gilbert, who's also an executive producer, approached him about the spinoff. "This might be some kind of closure. I don't know," he says. "But it's nice to have a chance."
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Roseanne tweeted, “I AIN’T DEAD BITCHES”.
Barr and her spiritual teacher Rabbi Shmuley Boteach also released a longer statement regarding the on-screen death:
“While we wish the very best for the cast and production crew of ‘The Conners,’ all of whom are deeply dedicated to their craft and were Roseanne’s cherished colleagues, we regret that ABC chose to cancel ‘Roseanne’ by killing off the Roseanne Conner character. That it was done through an opioid overdose lent an unnecessary grim and morbid dimension to an otherwise happy family show,” the statement reads. It went on to slam ABC’s cancellation of “Roseanne,” calling it a result of “fear, hubris, and a refusal to forgive.”
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an unnecessary grim and morbid dimension to an otherwise happy family show,”
Am I misremembering, but didn't Roseanne write the original show to end with Dan having a massive heart attack and dying?
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Yep. She killed off Dan, & Becky's boyfriend... in a prime time sitcom. They got cancelled because it wasn't funny anymore.
She went nuts & married that POS, Tom Arnold which only made her more nuts. Nobody wanted to see her anymore, & everybody hated Tom. Ratings slipped so she tried to turn the show into a drama while still plugging jokes into it.
Of course that failed terribly.
I didn't see most of the episodes of the final season, not even in reruns, because it sucked so bad.
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Hi,
I haven't been able to find images of Ames McNamara from the current season but I found several from the first season which I don't think anyone picked up. I only remember seeing one of these.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/clips-from-roseanne-reboot.1500672/page-2
Andy G.
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I like young Ames McNamara, he appears so natural on the show so he must be comfortable dressing the part. Glad they were able to make a come back.